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	<title>Comments on: VH1&#8217;s The Pick Up Artist: What the Average Person Still Doesn&#8217;t Get</title>
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	<description>The Selfish Prick You Know and Love</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the show opens up a lot of people's eyes to how guys experience pick up, whereas before people may cast them off as "manipulative players" without much understanding.  Good stuff.  The list is pretty funny too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the show opens up a lot of people&#8217;s eyes to how guys experience pick up, whereas before people may cast them off as &#8220;manipulative players&#8221; without much understanding.  Good stuff.  The list is pretty funny too.</p>
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		<title>By: lisaq</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>lisaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nicely done! you definitely give us ladies something to think about!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nicely done! you definitely give us ladies something to think about!  <img src='http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha...

The most classic part of it is that the desk is an exact replica of the real thing...

Floor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha&#8230;</p>
<p>The most classic part of it is that the desk is an exact replica of the real thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Floor</p>
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		<title>By: The Boston Bachelor</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>The Boston Bachelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Sometimes all it takes is a look"

&lt;img src="http://www.erichufschmid.net/img/Table_broken.gif" alt="Table" /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sometimes all it takes is a look&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.erichufschmid.net/img/Table_broken.gif" alt="Table" /></p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floor,

That was the paper I wrote for Frieurmuth Freshman year on Emperor Justinian. That assignment and topic were horrible kid... She deserved the F. I actually got and "F-" on it.

"You open quotes and don't even end them!"

The joke was on her kid.

v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floor,</p>
<p>That was the paper I wrote for Frieurmuth Freshman year on Emperor Justinian. That assignment and topic were horrible kid&#8230; She deserved the F. I actually got and &#8220;F-&#8221; on it.</p>
<p>&#8220;You open quotes and don&#8217;t even end them!&#8221;</p>
<p>The joke was on her kid.</p>
<p>v</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...

I was actually just referring to your paper that you got an 'F' on because it began and ended with quotation marks, much like your first posting on this topic.

Thats a solid anecdote though Stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;</p>
<p>I was actually just referring to your paper that you got an &#8216;F&#8217; on because it began and ended with quotation marks, much like your first posting on this topic.</p>
<p>Thats a solid anecdote though Stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V,

Your posting on that book was reminiscent of the Rhinososaurisis paper.  Was it made?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V,</p>
<p>Your posting on that book was reminiscent of the Rhinososaurisis paper.  Was it made?</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to comment on the specific quote: “A guy will never ask a guy to come over for a cup of coffee and just talk; that shit don’t fly. ”

It's true... There has to be an event surrounding the invitation to justify the meeting. For example, I could call up my friend and ask him to come over to watch a movie (the event). That shit would definitely fly. But I could never call my friend up just for the sole purpose of chatting for a few hours on the phone over nothing in particular (deep calls). That shit definitely don't fly.

I'm not saying that male friends don't share intimate moments with one another about their problems. It's just done in a more subtle way compared to females. Sometimes all it takes is a look from my best friend to know exactly what he's feeling and thinking. No words exchanged...

It's hard to explain... I recommend you read Self Made Man to understand exactly what I'm getting at here. It's a real page turner and offers a fascinating study of how males interact from a female perspective looking in.

As for Mystery's methods. You could definitely see a change in the confidence and self esteem of several of the contestants as the show progressed. I don't think anyone put on a fake personality in an attempt to attract girls. I have a feeling you didn't even watch the show.

Endit,

v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to comment on the specific quote: “A guy will never ask a guy to come over for a cup of coffee and just talk; that shit don’t fly. ”</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true&#8230; There has to be an event surrounding the invitation to justify the meeting. For example, I could call up my friend and ask him to come over to watch a movie (the event). That shit would definitely fly. But I could never call my friend up just for the sole purpose of chatting for a few hours on the phone over nothing in particular (deep calls). That shit definitely don&#8217;t fly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that male friends don&#8217;t share intimate moments with one another about their problems. It&#8217;s just done in a more subtle way compared to females. Sometimes all it takes is a look from my best friend to know exactly what he&#8217;s feeling and thinking. No words exchanged&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to explain&#8230; I recommend you read Self Made Man to understand exactly what I&#8217;m getting at here. It&#8217;s a real page turner and offers a fascinating study of how males interact from a female perspective looking in.</p>
<p>As for Mystery&#8217;s methods. You could definitely see a change in the confidence and self esteem of several of the contestants as the show progressed. I don&#8217;t think anyone put on a fake personality in an attempt to attract girls. I have a feeling you didn&#8217;t even watch the show.</p>
<p>Endit,</p>
<p>v</p>
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		<title>By: The Boston Bachelor</title>
		<link>http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2007/vh1s-the-pick-up-artist-what-the-average-person-still-doesnt-get/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>The Boston Bachelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your compliments.

You misunderstand the meaning of “that shit don’t fly” line. My closest friends are almost like family in that there’s a mutually-understood bond that doesn’t need to be explicitly drawn through weekly appointed neurotic small talk or couch psychobabble. We always time for serious conversation, but’s it’s done in terms of a bigger social context such as over drinks and dinner or at a bar, not a 3 hour leather couch Freudian session.

Also, I actually never wrote anything on this site positive or critical in regards to the specific tactics Mystery teaches on that show. But I will now.

I have no problem supporting what he’s doing out there, as he’s helping guys improve themselves and destroy their limiting beliefs. Unless you’re Hellen Keller, it’s impossible not to see how much more confident and socially comfortable all the guys were (with the possible exception of the 45 year old virgin) by the time they finished the show. I don’t agree with all of Mystery’s methodology, particularly his emphasis on canned routines, but you have to realize that the memorized lines are just training wheels given the amount of time he has to work with his “students.” The scripted “opinion openers” he employs are simply that; they “open” the conversation. Sure, you could tell each student the first week to go up to the girl and say “Hi, I like you.” But seeing how they lacked the self-esteem you mention (not to mention body language and other things), would that work?

Obviously not.

You need some success before you can obtain the necessary confidence and self-esteem to become a person who can naturally attract women. You can’t just say “go have high self-esteem” and magically solve the problem like that. It’s like telling a bad hitter “just hit the ball” as opposed to working on drills and mechanics.

If anything, the guys who are the most fake are the ones who try to mask their sexual attraction to a woman by playing everything hopelessly safe, trying to convince the woman to like him through expensive gifts and ass-kissing. From what I saw on the show, the girls in the bar and club were laughing along and having a good time just as much, if not more than the guys. If that gets some people’s panties in a twist, that’s their own psychological qualms to deal with.

The Boston Bachelor

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your compliments.</p>
<p>You misunderstand the meaning of “that shit don’t fly” line. My closest friends are almost like family in that there’s a mutually-understood bond that doesn’t need to be explicitly drawn through weekly appointed neurotic small talk or couch psychobabble. We always time for serious conversation, but’s it’s done in terms of a bigger social context such as over drinks and dinner or at a bar, not a 3 hour leather couch Freudian session.</p>
<p>Also, I actually never wrote anything on this site positive or critical in regards to the specific tactics Mystery teaches on that show. But I will now.</p>
<p>I have no problem supporting what he’s doing out there, as he’s helping guys improve themselves and destroy their limiting beliefs. Unless you’re Hellen Keller, it’s impossible not to see how much more confident and socially comfortable all the guys were (with the possible exception of the 45 year old virgin) by the time they finished the show. I don’t agree with all of Mystery’s methodology, particularly his emphasis on canned routines, but you have to realize that the memorized lines are just training wheels given the amount of time he has to work with his “students.” The scripted “opinion openers” he employs are simply that; they “open” the conversation. Sure, you could tell each student the first week to go up to the girl and say “Hi, I like you.” But seeing how they lacked the self-esteem you mention (not to mention body language and other things), would that work?</p>
<p>Obviously not.</p>
<p>You need some success before you can obtain the necessary confidence and self-esteem to become a person who can naturally attract women. You can’t just say “go have high self-esteem” and magically solve the problem like that. It’s like telling a bad hitter “just hit the ball” as opposed to working on drills and mechanics.</p>
<p>If anything, the guys who are the most fake are the ones who try to mask their sexual attraction to a woman by playing everything hopelessly safe, trying to convince the woman to like him through expensive gifts and ass-kissing. From what I saw on the show, the girls in the bar and club were laughing along and having a good time just as much, if not more than the guys. If that gets some people’s panties in a twist, that’s their own psychological qualms to deal with.</p>
<p>The Boston Bachelor</p>
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		<title>By: TheSausalitoSwinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheSausalitoSwinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A guy will never ask a guy to come over for a cup of coffee and just talk; that shit don’t fly. "

Its thoughts like that one that will make the Boston Batchelor a batchelor for life.

Have you ever actually tried to talk to your male friend about your troubles?  Good friends dont need some sort of masculine buffer to talk to each other.

This blog and and the idea behind it (that women are some sort of enigma that you have to decipher by following a guy named 'mystery' and that you have to fake yourself into getting any sort of attention is whats wrong with most guys.  Self esteem does wonders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A guy will never ask a guy to come over for a cup of coffee and just talk; that shit don’t fly. &#8221;</p>
<p>Its thoughts like that one that will make the Boston Batchelor a batchelor for life.</p>
<p>Have you ever actually tried to talk to your male friend about your troubles?  Good friends dont need some sort of masculine buffer to talk to each other.</p>
<p>This blog and and the idea behind it (that women are some sort of enigma that you have to decipher by following a guy named &#8216;mystery&#8217; and that you have to fake yourself into getting any sort of attention is whats wrong with most guys.  Self esteem does wonders.</p>
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